Comments on: San Francisco, Thirty Years Later http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/ bstewart23 Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:30:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David D. http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-7032 David D. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:44:17 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-7032 The bf and I saw Milk yesterday and it far surpassed my expectations. It is, plainly and simply, an excellent film, engaging and moving with very few compromises (mostly toward the end) for mainstream audiences. It may not win Best Picture (I gather several more contenders are coming out before Christmas) but it should certainly win Best Actor and Best Director. And Best Supporting Actor--I had never cared one way or the other for James Franco before, but his performance was a revelation. Josh Brolin could, and should, keep him good company in that category. All of the performances, actually, were outstanding. I haven't seen The Times of Harvey Milk for years, but now I feel like hunting it out and watching it again. The bf and I saw Milk yesterday and it far surpassed my expectations. It is, plainly and simply, an excellent film, engaging and moving with very few compromises (mostly toward the end) for mainstream audiences.

It may not win Best Picture (I gather several more contenders are coming out before Christmas) but it should certainly win Best Actor and Best Director. And Best Supporting Actor–I had never cared one way or the other for James Franco before, but his performance was a revelation. Josh Brolin could, and should, keep him good company in that category.

All of the performances, actually, were outstanding. I haven’t seen The Times of Harvey Milk for years, but now I feel like hunting it out and watching it again.

]]> By: Carol Elaine http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-7015 Carol Elaine Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:38:28 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-7015 Saw <i>The Times of Harvey Milk</i> last night at the Hammer Museum last night. Now I know why you have stock in Kleenex. Whoa. Again, having a hand to hold and a shoulder to lean on helped get me through it without turning into a puddle of weeping goo. BTW, to no one's surprise, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERMqBT4pWkc" rel="nofollow">Fox News fucks up again in its "review" of <i>MILK</i></a>. Idiots. Saw The Times of Harvey Milk last night at the Hammer Museum last night. Now I know why you have stock in Kleenex. Whoa. Again, having a hand to hold and a shoulder to lean on helped get me through it without turning into a puddle of weeping goo.

BTW, to no one’s surprise, Fox News fucks up again in its “review” of MILK.

Idiots.

]]> By: Jon http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6992 Jon Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:53:45 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6992 My husband and I saw "Milk" today and was blown away. One of the best movies I've seen in ages. The parallels to Prop 8 are just eerie, considering the film was shot, what, 8 months ago? If Sean Penn does not win the Oscar for Best Actor, there really is no justice in the world. My husband and I saw “Milk” today and was blown away. One of the best movies I’ve seen in ages. The parallels to Prop 8 are just eerie, considering the film was shot, what, 8 months ago? If Sean Penn does not win the Oscar for Best Actor, there really is no justice in the world.

]]> By: Carol Elaine http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6986 Carol Elaine Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:35:00 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6986 <i>The Times of Harvey Milk</i> is on my Netflix queue, near the top, so I should finally see it soon. On Monday UCLA is having <a href="http://www.calendar.ucla.edu/event_detail.cfm?MeetingID=176144" rel="nofollow">an interesting event</a> re: film restoration that focuses on <i>The Times of Harvey Milk</i>,which looks like it's going to be screened. I don't know if I can make it after work, but I am going to try my damndest. The Times of Harvey Milk is on my Netflix queue, near the top, so I should finally see it soon. On Monday UCLA is having an interesting event re: film restoration that focuses on The Times of Harvey Milk,which looks like it’s going to be screened. I don’t know if I can make it after work, but I am going to try my damndest.

]]> By: Carol Elaine http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6985 Carol Elaine Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:07:05 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6985 Last night I listened in as my SO argued over the phone with his now-devoutly-Christian mother about the rights of homosexuals to be treated with the same respect accorded heteros under the law. I could tell by his responses that she was pulling out the same old, "The Bible is against it and so am I," bullshit. We would counter it by quoting the other things the Bible is against (mixed fibers and shellfish) with chapter and verse (thank you, internet) and she'd pull something else out, which we would refute by looking up the actual verse (nothing that we could find in the Bible saying that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed due to rampant homosexuality - huh; oh, and far as we could see, Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality - for or against). In the end she just said, "You can love the sinner but hate the sin." And then she said something that made my SO reply, "No, you're not a bad person, Mother, I'm just trying to show you the hypocrisy of the position of most people who say these things and use it to justify their hate." Needless to say, she got defensive about that too. Obviously another person who has no idea what the Bible really says. *sigh* bstewart, does Canada have the same DVD format as the U.S.? If so, I'm sure we can arrange to have a U.S. DVD sent to you, without the stuff that bugs you about Alliance's DVD releases. And was one box of tissues sufficient on Wednesday night? <strong>bstewart23: Hah! Thanks, Carol Elaine, one box <i>was</i> sufficient, though coming home and watching <i>The Times of Harvey Milk</i> for, like, the eleventieth time, was probably not the best thing to do for red, puffy eyes. And thanks for your kind offer. While Canada's DVD region is the same as yours (1), I spend as much time (and money) on Amazon.com as I do on Amazon.ca because -- you guessed it -- the price differential is far greater than that of our dollars.</strong> Last night I listened in as my SO argued over the phone with his now-devoutly-Christian mother about the rights of homosexuals to be treated with the same respect accorded heteros under the law. I could tell by his responses that she was pulling out the same old, “The Bible is against it and so am I,” bullshit. We would counter it by quoting the other things the Bible is against (mixed fibers and shellfish) with chapter and verse (thank you, internet) and she’d pull something else out, which we would refute by looking up the actual verse (nothing that we could find in the Bible saying that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed due to rampant homosexuality – huh; oh, and far as we could see, Jesus didn’t say anything about homosexuality – for or against).

In the end she just said, “You can love the sinner but hate the sin.” And then she said something that made my SO reply, “No, you’re not a bad person, Mother, I’m just trying to show you the hypocrisy of the position of most people who say these things and use it to justify their hate.” Needless to say, she got defensive about that too.

Obviously another person who has no idea what the Bible really says. *sigh*

bstewart, does Canada have the same DVD format as the U.S.? If so, I’m sure we can arrange to have a U.S. DVD sent to you, without the stuff that bugs you about Alliance’s DVD releases. And was one box of tissues sufficient on Wednesday night?

bstewart23: Hah! Thanks, Carol Elaine, one box was sufficient, though coming home and watching The Times of Harvey Milk for, like, the eleventieth time, was probably not the best thing to do for red, puffy eyes. And thanks for your kind offer. While Canada’s DVD region is the same as yours (1), I spend as much time (and money) on Amazon.com as I do on Amazon.ca because — you guessed it — the price differential is far greater than that of our dollars.

]]> By: snotty http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6984 snotty Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:54:01 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6984 "the rights of the faithful to maintain their way of life, even at the expense of other’s freedoms and rights, is of paramount importance." Canada happens to be founded on this type of system. Group rights to discriminate to maintain a way of life are part of Quebec society and the aboriginal reserve system. The Charlottetown Accord was meant to entrench this. “the rights of the faithful to maintain their way of life, even at the expense of other’s freedoms and rights, is of paramount importance.”

Canada happens to be founded on this type of system. Group rights to discriminate to maintain a way of life are part of Quebec society and the aboriginal reserve system.
The Charlottetown Accord was meant to entrench this.

]]> By: R.J. http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6981 R.J. Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:25:04 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6981 I am looking forward to seeing the film but also remained depressed given the P8 crap in California that some things change so little...such attitudes foster violence like this, or Matthew Sheppard, Tina Brandon or other such brutal crimes...in the end the only way to truly fight stupidity and ignorance is by changing the world one step at time through blogs like yours... I am looking forward to seeing the film but also remained depressed given the P8 crap in California that some things change so little…such attitudes foster violence like this, or Matthew Sheppard, Tina Brandon or other such brutal crimes…in the end the only way to truly fight stupidity and ignorance is by changing the world one step at time through blogs like yours…

]]> By: Dead Robot http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6971 Dead Robot Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:45:30 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6971 It's the lot of Canadian (and other multi-cultural) designers to be skilled enough to accommodate both languages, no matter how it's done. Besides, most of the designs coming from the US don't consider how two languages would look on the box, so I'd blame the myopic US designers! We can debate for hours the costs and weather or not the involvement of a marketing department hinders or helps. Lord knows I have done so with my conservative, English speaking, Separatist mother. And I think therein lies my point: your comment sounded exclusive in an excellent post about equality. <strong>bstewart23: Ted, we're quibbling about teeny-tiny (and supersubtle) hairs on an animal we both love equally and I'd love to say "agree to disagree" but, of course, I'm not built that way (and you know it, I'm afraid). Stay tuned for an extra-special shout-out to you and this discussion in the near future.</strong> It’s the lot of Canadian (and other multi-cultural) designers to be skilled enough to accommodate both languages, no matter how it’s done. Besides, most of the designs coming from the US don’t consider how two languages would look on the box, so I’d blame the myopic US designers! We can debate for hours the costs and weather or not the involvement of a marketing department hinders or helps. Lord knows I have done so with my conservative, English speaking, Separatist mother.

And I think therein lies my point: your comment sounded exclusive in an excellent post about equality.

bstewart23: Ted, we’re quibbling about teeny-tiny (and supersubtle) hairs on an animal we both love equally and I’d love to say “agree to disagree” but, of course, I’m not built that way (and you know it, I’m afraid). Stay tuned for an extra-special shout-out to you and this discussion in the near future.

]]> By: Dead Robot http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6970 Dead Robot Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:18:36 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6970 Great review and commentary. I know this is sort of off topic, but as a graphic designer, I took umbrage at this line: <I>with ugly and unnecessary bilingual packaging</I> Are we to put wordless icons on the DVD for the Quebecois? Create a more costly product (in duplicating it's packaging) so English readers aren't offended by French text? Inclusive, indeed. <strong>bstewart23: Thanks for the kind words, but I'm a bit surprised that a graphic designer might defend the ruination of his hard work by foreign distributors. Many manufactures used to provide reversible covers and in doing so managed to not sully the graphic designer's hard work with anything more than "Français au verso". The lazy, cheapskate decision to have both English and French on the same cover ruins the design and shrinks any type integral to the design to an unreadable size. It's simply a matter of spending $0.005 more (on a $30 product) for a reversible DVD sleeve insert. Or swapping out English covers for French in specific markets. As a graphic designer, would you not be royally pissed if the fruits of your careful placement of type (and other design elements) was crammed into a space half the size, and by someone not privy to (or respectful of) the design philosophy of the project?</strong> Great review and commentary.

I know this is sort of off topic, but as a graphic designer, I took umbrage at this line:

with ugly and unnecessary bilingual packaging

Are we to put wordless icons on the DVD for the Quebecois? Create a more costly product (in duplicating it’s packaging) so English readers aren’t offended by French text?

Inclusive, indeed.

bstewart23: Thanks for the kind words, but I’m a bit surprised that a graphic designer might defend the ruination of his hard work by foreign distributors.

Many manufactures used to provide reversible covers and in doing so managed to not sully the graphic designer’s hard work with anything more than “Français au verso”. The lazy, cheapskate decision to have both English and French on the same cover ruins the design and shrinks any type integral to the design to an unreadable size. It’s simply a matter of spending $0.005 more (on a $30 product) for a reversible DVD sleeve insert. Or swapping out English covers for French in specific markets.

As a graphic designer, would you not be royally pissed if the fruits of your careful placement of type (and other design elements) was crammed into a space half the size, and by someone not privy to (or respectful of) the design philosophy of the project?

]]> By: James http://bstewart23.com/blog/2008/11/27/san-francisco-thirty-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-6967 James Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:52:46 +0000 http://bstewart23.com/blog/?p=2358#comment-6967 That is so powerful, and so, SO true. - It's amazing that he was preaching this 30 years ago, in a much more hostile enviroment, and today there are still so many of us still closeted. Thank you so much for the video. That is so powerful, and so, SO true. – It’s amazing that he was preaching this 30 years ago, in a much more hostile enviroment, and today there are still so many of us still closeted.

Thank you so much for the video.

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